Irving Kirsch on dumping drugs…

Obviously Irving Kirsch is well ahead of his time, and I feel ignorant having not ‘found’ him until connecting with a man, now a good friend who lives in the UK and writes an inspirational blog about his experience as a care partner for his wife.  Thanks Paul!

Dump the risky drugs


15 thoughts on “Irving Kirsch on dumping drugs…

  1. I find it hard to believe that a trial found no difference between the effects of “Risperdal” and a placebo after 12 weeks. That sounds like a trial where the outcome was pre determined. Watching a person become a “non-person” when prescribed “Risperdal” still upsets my memories of trying to be a carer in the initial stages. Anti psychotic drugs should be banned for dementia treatment.


  2. Hi Kate I’m glad that I introduced you to Irving. His reasearch has been fundamental here with NICE changing it’s Guidelines on how to treat mild to moderate depression. Irving has proved that the chemical imbalance theory on depression is invalid; see The Emperor’s New Drug for the evidence. We are also fortunate that he has also published on the ‘Risky Drugs’ and dementia


  3. Glenys here Kate. Good post. Why is it so hard to find out / hear about this? My mum was prescribed antipsychotic drugs and it was a constant battle with Drs and other family members to be heard and for them to be concerned.


      • Shhhhhhhhh, Kate – they’ll hear you! “Hoodwinked or on the payroll”, yes, I’d say that pretty well sums it all up. And the sheep just keep lining up for their morning medications. Thank you for being an alternative voice in a bizarre wilderness.


      • You got that right! I get so frustrated reading in the caregiver self-help forms on Facebook when someone asks about a specific antipsychotic and whether they should give it to their person living with dementia and dozens of people reply saying how great they work.

        The anti-antipsychotic comments are far fewer and further between.

        To be fair, family caregivers have even less knowledge than many “professional” carers and people in the medical and social service professions, and they simply do not know how to manage and engage their care partners who live with dementia. I know this, because I was one of them.

        When I went to the doctor to try to find ways to cope because I was becoming exhausted from lack of sleep and trying to deal with behaviour without any skills or tools, the only solution I was offered was antipsychotic medication. I remember specifically asking for other options, and was told there weren’t any. I had no choice but to use the medication. Thank God it was at the lowest possible dose.

        However, when my person with dementia went in the long-term care facility, doses were immediately increased, and then increased again and againg until she was virtually comatose the entire day. This facility’s staff know next to nothing about how to manage their own behaviour in such a way so as not to elicit problematic responsive behaviour in residents who live with dementia. Further, the environment does more to hurt and to help. The whole situation is completely unacceptable, and my hands are tied. it’s hard to imagine my level of frustration…


      • I have been through your frustration, with my father in law and two others in my guardianship… it is not only unacceptable that those working in the sector (who are paid) have little or no knowledge of dementia, it is unethical, and I’d go as far as saying, a breach of human rights!


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